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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39   #21
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Use your Ranger to get PKM and use the build on him/her. Solved.
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:42 PM // 23:42   #22
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you'd have absolutely no energy management, no point in running a gimmick that bad.

use a warrior weapon with a pet and bring ferocious strike or something if you insist on getting that rainbow phoenix. or something less bad as warrior barrage.
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46   #23
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you'd have absolutely no energy management, no point in running a gimmick that bad.

use a warrior weapon with a pet and bring ferocious strike or something if you insist on getting that rainbow phoenix. or something less bad as warrior barrage.
For the 4th time, my energy was stable at roughly 25-29, while I was barraging 3 targets.

Energy management was passable. Damage was decent. So why is it that a passable build is something taboo?
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:49 PM // 23:49   #24
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well then, if you think it works and you don't mind running a gimmick..

why the hell don't you just do it?
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #25
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Have you seen the post above yours?
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Why are you so mean to the OP? You're not even a warrior. Go back to playing your puny little sin. If he wants to hide in his little world and think a bad build is good, then he can be bad forever. He might eventually realize that his energy will be total shit if he can't hit at least 3+ targets per barrage, and that any real warrior build (like triple chop) will do at least twice that damage. Or maybe he won't. But who cares? :P
Bolded for emphasis in case you are moderately illiterate.

And if you think it works despite everyone saying it doesn't, run it. You're not going to convince anyone that a shit build is good. And if you're not going to take build criticism, then why are you even posting that trash here?
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #26
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well then, if you think it works and you don't mind running a gimmick..

why the hell don't you just do it?
Because my guild won't let me?

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Bolded for emphasis in case you are moderately illiterate.
If there were only 1 or 2 targets why am I using barrage on them in the first place? 3 is like my "threshhold" for considering when barrage should be used.
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52   #27
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omg lol then dont run it.
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53   #28
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Because my guild won't let me?
Then how does crying about it here help? Cry to your guild.

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If there were only 1 or 2 targets why am I using barrage on them in the first place? 3 is like my "threshhold" for considering when barrage should be used.
So you're one of those bad warriors that uses a bow for DPS. O ok.
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Old Jan 27, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #29
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Then how does crying about it here help? Cry to your guild.

So you're one of those bad warriors that uses a bow for DPS. O ok.
I managed to get another thread locked because me and another sap flamed each other, don't get me started. I will not reply to any more of your messages.

If you were not supposed to be able to wield weapons from other classes, Anet would have made it so that only Rangers could use bows, and such.
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:01 AM // 00:01   #30
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If you were not supposed to be able to wield weapons from other classes, Anet would have made it so that only Rangers could use bows, and such.
No one said you can't. You'll just be, in most cases, inefficient. By your logic, you would think that a W/Mo pure healer is perfectly fine.

P.S. I think if you have a history of getting threads locked because you make bad arguments, then it's not my problem ^_^
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #31
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Use + [skill]Flourish[/skill]

Energy problems solved! You will OWNZZZZZZ!
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03   #32
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Use + [skill]Flourish[/skill]

Energy problems solved! You will OWNZZZZZZ!
Actually, that wouldn't work...

Volley + Flourish cost 10 energy to use, and Flourish would return about 6 or 7. I'd still be down 3 energy.
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #33
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Actually, that wouldn't work...

Volley + Flourish cost 10 energy to use, and Flourish would return about 6 or 7. I'd still be down 3 energy.
Then you run a zealous. Duhhhhhhh. With barrage you're down 5 energy.

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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #34
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Your energy concerns are assuming that enemies will be always be grouped for Barrage, at least I think.
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:06 AM // 00:06   #35
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Your energy concerns are assuming that enemies will be always be grouped for Barrage, at least I think.
Ok, here's my Barrage mentality. If there's two enemies grouped up, or just one, I won't barrage. It's not worth it, for two enemies, and now that I know that there have to be at least 3 targets before my energy can be stable. So naturally, I'd only Barrage when there were 3 enemies grouped, and when there were 1 or 2, I'd just plink away with the bow. And with Flail, I can plink away a little bit faster.
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #36
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To be honest, it does. No one's giving me a chance to use it, though.
If it doesn't work better than a ranger it doesn't work.
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Yeah, I know that rangers are better at BPing (I've got a ranger myself)
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Energy management was passable. Damage was decent. So why is it that a passable build is something taboo?
Because you shouldn't be aiming for passable, you should be aiming for wtf pwns BIG DAMAGE.

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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #37
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I see Arkantos here. I think he will quote

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omg lol then dont run it.
and then tell me and Stormlord Alex to stop posting kitten pictures

Edit: Or maybe he'll just *shrug* and walk away...
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #38
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B/P war does decent dmg, yes, ive tried it. I can see it building up a good amount of adren for SY!, but other than that its seems like more of a build to mess around with. But hey, sins have been barraging for a long time, why cant wars?
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Old Jan 28, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24   #39
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B/P war does decent dmg, yes, ive tried it. I can see it building up a good amount of adren for SY!, but other than that its seems like more of a build to mess around with. But hey, sins have been barraging for a long time, why cant wars?
That's what I'm thinking... what is it so taboo about warriors using their secondary? The build works, it's not like you have to jump through hoops to get it to be passable.. it runs on its own. It can sustain its energy and everything, as well...
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sins have been using suboptimal/bad builds for a long time, why cant wars?
Fixed.

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